“Our new confidence that we can control the physical environment has spilled over so we now think we can reshape the metaphysical realm as well.” (p. 74) But according to Keller, this view of modernity is not accepted by all. Keller shares a story in which a woman approached him to share that the very idea of a judging God was offensive. Keller writes: “for the sake of argument, let’s imagine that Christianity is not the product of any one culture but is actually the transcultural truth of God. You can get the summary to this chapter here. I was with my oldest and only child, who was probably 3 at the time, and an acquaintance mentioned something about ‘the devil,’ and I said, “Oh, we don’t believe in the devil or in hell.” Really?!? Can you recall hearing a sermon on the wrath of God, the final judgment, and/or the doctrine of hell? The freedom from enjoying God in his kingdom will be lost forever. The freedom from enjoying God in his kingdom will be lost forever. Poor Clerval! Do we respond with benign tolerance as we might toward strangers? Hell. I believe in the Bible literally and so I can’t separate the things in the Bible. I pray for greater understanding and wisdom and discernment. Dark movies are not happy movies, and wicked men are rarely models of joy and bliss.

He responded, “Why aren’t you offended by the idea of a forgiving God? When she replied “no”, Keller concluded, “Well then why should your culture’s objections to Christianity trump theirs?” (p.74). Previous to this, the title is simply used to break up thoughts. It was good, I just think I have read better stuff on this whole subject.

No mortal could support the horror of that countenance. I can understand why we believe in a God of pure love, especially in our Western culture, because the Bible teaches us to love God first and then love everyone else, including even those who are unlovely to us. Here I paused, I knew not why; but I remained some minutes with my eyes fixed on a coach that was coming towards me from the other end of the street. I welcomed my friend, therefore, in the most cordial manner, and we walked towards my college. (p.85) The real leap of faith comes when someone believes that God is love but judges no one. I walked with a quick pace, and we soon arrived at my college. I am grateful beyond words, because I am ready, finally, to listen. And did she consider her culture to be superior to non-Western ones? He still wanted to be served, even in hell. SO why would I have wanted to spend eternity worshiping and loving God? When a loving person is faced with the mistreatment of a loved one, that love is the very root of the resulting anger and wrath. ( Log Out /  I carefully urge you to consider your cultural location when you find the Christian teaching about hell offensive.” (p.74) He then went on to ask her, did she believe that Western cultural sensibilities should be the final court in which to judge whether Christianity is valid? Okay, it was a hit so I will share, with the disclaimer that in my opinion you just can't beat scalloped potatoes from the oven, but i... My sweet friend Stacy is hosting Christmas Frenzy for the third year! For me, this chapter was a great comfort, because while I already agreed with Keller on the topic, I needed to read his clarifying words.

I also think I need to remember Job 28:23… “God knows it’s way and He understands it’s place.”, brandi…perhaps check out this article by Keller: April 30, 2009 — Leave a comment. Chapter 6 – Science Has Disproved Christianity You may even criticize it in yourself and wish you could stop it. I continued walking in this manner for some time, endeavouring by bodily exercise to ease the load that weighed upon my mind.

Several years later when I accepted Christ, I recalled that statement, and it haunted me so much that I found that person and corrected myself. He might have spoken, but I did not hear; one hand was stretched out, seemingly to detain me, but I escaped and rushed downstairs. Because he knows a frightful fiend Could he allude to an object on whom I dared not even think? But I was not the witness of his grief, for I was lifeless and did not recover my senses for a long, long time. But I feel like he didn’t really address the most troubling parts of the Biblical teaching of Hell.

I believe in a God of ”        “. visit the House Church Resources page for more info. In this case however, he uses quotes to emphasize that this is an argument heard countless times, not merely a natural break in the chapter. I then paused, and a cold shivering came over me. I had gazed on him while unfinished; he was ugly then, but when those muscles and joints were rendered capable of motion, it became a thing such as even Dante could not have conceived. More information and resources can be found here. My thoughts on Tim Keller's "The Reason for God"--Chapter 5.

Our good deeds are but filthy rags compared to God's holiness. I afterwards learned that, knowing my father’s advanced age and unfitness for so long a journey, and how wretched my sickness would make Elizabeth, he spared them this grief by concealing the extent of my disorder.

The cross has all those answers. Jesus, thank you for taking the wrath for my sin, and giving me the one and only way to escape eternal separation from God. They hardly know how ill you have been and are uneasy at your long silence.”, “Is that all, my dear Henry? Hell, rather, is the culmination of the deprivation of good which sin always brings. Please contact the church office if you need access to the building. I see that as God’s wrath and punishment.

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I […], clementine - 2014 Hate is, and the final form of hate is indifference… God’s wrath is not a cranky explosion, but his settled opposition to the cancer… which is eating out the insides of the human race he loves with his whole being.” (p.76), Keller describes the modern view of hell as God casting souls – those unfortunate ones who did not make the right choices in life before their time was up – into hell for all eternity… despite the pleas and cries for mercy. One subject!

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“Do not ask me,” cried I, putting my hands before my eyes, for I thought I saw the dreaded spectre glide into the room; “HE can tell. But this view misses the very nature of evil, Keller says. stream Sadly, people living solely for themselves can never get enough of whatever they are after, and they seem to be chasing elusive happiness. While the love of God depicted in the Bible is not controversial here in the West, the wrath of God is. Unable to endure the aspect of the being I had created, I rushed out of the room and continued a long time traversing my bedchamber, unable to compose my mind to sleep. • Some argue that a God of Judgment can’t exist. The Christian God is both a God of love and of justice. x�X�R#7}�W(���l0#�43v��@��)[q�>�}HQl�� Vivi's diagnosis 105 from The Reason for God Belief in an Age of Skepticism by Timothy Keller The New York Times bestseller that makes “a tight, accessible case for reasoned religious belief” (Washington Post).Timothy Keller, the founding pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian

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